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 07-18-2006, 16:32 Post: 132338
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Two things: Back home SW of Detroit there are several unscrupulous car dealers. The joke amongst the locals is these dealers are the only ones who advertise heavily on radio and TV---because they have to---they rarely have repeat business. They hook you with a so-called good deal and you get screwed (I was one in my younger days).

Same thing is happening with the State of Michigan advertising (not that they're screwing people necessarily). No company in their right mind with the exception of those willing to take advantage of the largely automotive brain pool or tax reduction benefits, will move there. It's not the end of the World, but daaang, we sure can see it from there.

Just yesterday I heard on national news that Ford was laying off 25,000 by the end of the year. For every Michigan autoworker job lost, 5 ancilliary jobs are lost too. And GM is in the process of reorg with possibly Nissan and/or another company. Inevitably many more jobs will be lost soon over that.













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 07-19-2006, 11:36 Post: 132374
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yooper: My sense of the situation and I agree 100% with you is likely two things: living beyond their means, and credit. I think they realize the jig will be up so why not live it up while you can---after all the'll just go bankrupt. I can't tell you how may people I know or have met that have done this and become entangled in a credit web they'll never get out of.






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 07-19-2006, 11:41 Post: 132377
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botamac: Are you around Lansing or Howell?






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 07-19-2006, 13:10 Post: 132384
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Iowa: "Anybody need...cheesecake"
Well, I dunno...you sound like a "catch"...so ahhhh, what are you wearing? tehehehe

By the way you weren't suppose to read these posts, but there's nothin' like a slap of reality from those who are either there, have been, or don't wanna come back. But I'm jis' sayin'.






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 07-19-2006, 19:11 Post: 132405
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You're right. Most are only one late payment and a bullet from losing their homes.






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 08-01-2006, 12:58 Post: 132880
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The other day I'm working here in Miss. and I hear on the radio Michigan trying to get Mississippi businesses to leave the south and move north. What a crock of b.s. Michigan is in worse shape than I thought. First off we (they) have a Governness who is a Canadian-born woman who's also a Democrat---a recipe for disaster. Instead of giving existing businesses a tax break to jump start the economy, she has given those tax breaks to OTHER outsiders. Which at best is a temporary stop-gap measure.






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 08-02-2006, 18:09 Post: 132912
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Peters: Can you elaborate on your last post? I didn't quite follow you.






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 08-03-2006, 08:52 Post: 132918
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Peters I totally agree with you. In Mich. they screw the businessman that has been there from the beginning by taxing him over and over. Yet they woo others and bend over backwards to give them breaks. Companies aren't unthinking giants--they're owned by people who are only looking at their bottom line. Part of it is not being able to find good help. I know myself that I have paid people $20 an hour to help me clean up a Katrina lot---just picking up debris or raking by hand and throwing it a pile. They complain all day and don't show up the next. I have friends who help me paet time that are straight from Mexico. The longer they're here that more money they want and the less they want to do. I pay them $20-$50 an hour (the $50 comes into play when I budget enough money for their help and they bust butt to gt it done in half to one third the time so they deserve it---however that has backfired on me many times because they get used to it and don't wat to help next time). It's sort of the same thing down here. I hear "yeah I wanna work". Truth is they really don't want to unless they need beer or smokes money. I have had locals tell me who had "jobs" that they work a few days and then disappear for as much as two weeks drinking.

What was that you were talking about Katrina metal buildings and shipping containers?






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